(This article was originally posted on October 24th, 2022. It has been updated with new information.)
This is what the Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum has to say about the alleged homicidal gas chambers in Birkenau:
The official claim is that the gas chambers in Birkenau could hold 2000 people at a time. In an interview Holocaust survivor and ex-Sonderkommando (Jewish inmate that allegedly helped the Germans murder other Jews), Dario Gabbai, goes so far as to say that they put 2,500 to 3,000 people in the chamber at a time.
The capacity of the alleged homicidal gas chambers is readily available. If you were to try and find the size of these alleged homicidal gas chambers through a simple search, however, you’re going to have a bad time. Try it yourself. Google ‘Auschwitz gas chamber size’ and see what you get. I was only able to find a link to the tweet below because I Googled ‘Auschwitz gas chamber 210 square meters’. It seems that you can only find the information if you already know it.
Why would the orthodox Holocaust website obfuscate such information? Perhaps it is because 210 square meters is 4/5 the size of a tennis court. The graphic below (courtesy of Dean Irebodd) shows us a visual representation of what 2000 people in a 210 square meter room looks like. Is it believable, is it conceivable, that Jews would allow the Sonderkommando to stuff them like sardines into a ‘shower room’?
Now you must imagine that 210 square meter room filled with 2000 people and add in four wire mesh columns (see image below). It is claimed that they introduced the Zyklon B pellets through these columns.
Next, imagine that these 2000 panicking people are being held back by a wooden door.
Finally, you must take into account that this feat was repeated over and over, day after day. Sometimes even more than once a day.
Do you believe these claims? If not people like anti-Semitism Envoy, Ambassador Deborah Lipstadt, would label you as an evil Holocaust definer. I don’t know about you, but I’d rather be a Holocaust denier then believe stupid things.
“Coalition-mindedness makes everyone, including scientists, far stupider in coalitional collectivities than as individuals. […] To question or disagree with coalitional precepts, even for rational reasons, makes one a bad and immoral coalition member —at risk of losing job offers, one’s friends, and one’s cherished group identity. This freezes belief revision.
Forming coalitions around scientific or factual questions is disastrous, because it pits our urge for scientific truth-seeking against the nearly insuperable human appetite to be a good coalition member. Once scientific propositions are moralized, the scientific process is wounded, often fatally. No one is behaving either ethically or scientifically who does not make the best case possible for rival theories with which one disagrees.” John Tooby “Coalitional instincts”, Edge.org
This is exactly what the jews have done when it comes to the Holocaust and racial questions in the West. What academia is claiming is stupid beyond belief and yet few dare speak up because of the fear of consequences. You are doing a fantastic job on this website. Keep it up!
the number of people in the Tokyo subway at rush hour is regularly around 6 people per square meter, so 1,000 in 210 square meters is certainly possible. If you take into account that many people being pushed into gas chambers had been on starvation rations (and thus were thin) and that roughly one-quarter were children, it becomes even easier.
Those people were willingly riding the subway.
The people being gassed were willingly entering the chamber too, so there’s nothing of value here. It’s entirely unreasonable to think that emaciated, desperate, filthy confused people being told they’re getting a shower would immediately think “it’s cramped in here we’re going to die” when they have fellow Jews telling them it’s just a shower.
Let’s take 6 people per square meter in the subway. 6×210 = 1260. That’s already quite a lot, now imagine all of those people starving.
Just for a visual:
https://www.gkstill.com/_Media/5-people-per-square-metre-2_med_hr.jpeg
Those are 5, average sized men per square meter. And I would argue there’s enough space to fit at least two more guys in each of those square meters before it starts to hurt. Now imagine if those guys were emaciated, naked, and 1 of them was a child. As gross as it is, it’s certainly possible to fit way more in there especially if they’re naked and starving.
1. The official narrative is that the majority of the gassing victims came right from the trains. We have pictures that show they weren’t emaciated. The starvation didn’t happen until end of the war after the Allies had destroyed German infrastructure and supply lines.
2. Testimony from Jewish WW2 survivors talks about rumors of gas chambers that were going around. A Jewish lady even said it was a miracle that the shower was water and not gas.
3. I never said it was impossible for that amount of bodies to fit in that space. I’m saying It is highly unlikely that a system like this was employed because of all the problems it would have generated. It is just one more unlikely claim to add to the giant pile of unlikely claims.
Truth seeking isn’t about finding a way to make the story work to meet your end goal. It is about taking all the information and determining what happened, even if it isn’t the outcome you’d like.
In the first half of 1950s average height and weight of adult Canadian citizens was 163.5 cm and 67.5 kg (average for men and women).
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.45.7.862&ved=2ahUKEwjIudvo6NSJAxXs0AIHHS_MKN8QFnoECBQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw23cfPujUaMVx6VHhy9VptB
This sizes are almostly the same as average height and weight of adults in today Hong Kong.
https://www.worlddata.info/average-bodyheight.php
In Hong Kong average adult person has bideltoid shoulder breadth 40.5 cm and average chest (bust) depth 20.5 cm, in both cases average for men and women.
https://personal.cityu.edu.hk/meachan/Online%20Anthropometry/Chapter2/Ch2-17.htm
https://personal.cityu.edu.hk/meachan/Online%20Anthropometry/Chapter2/Ch2-20.htm
So with this sizes 2,500 adults would fit into 210 m2 room. But the final number is even higher taking into account that during the war people were emaciated large part of victims were children.
I never said that it was impossible to fit that many people into the alleged gas chamber, so what’s your point?
I would like to see a source for that they were gassed after getting off the train. Regardless, most if not all of Europe was starved of food and were living off of rations, so if this is the case, emaciation was likely prominent among a good chunk of them. Also, if they were right off the trains, they probably would be even more desperate to get a shower considering they had been in a crowded, sweaty boxcar marinating in their own juices for days
How common were the rumors of gassing? And how would they know? The gas chambers were underground at Birkenau and quite far from where most of the barracks were. I’d say the rumors of gassings were more to do with rumors that there was some way of killing, but it’s unknown what. I would like to see the Jewish lady saying it was a miracle that it was water
I’m aware you’re not saying it’s impossible, but it’s also not very problematic. If I had been under the conditions they were in, I would not care about the conditions of the shower and even less care if I am being killed, but I don’t know how survivors thought about the matter
“I would like to see a source for that they were gassed after getting off the train.”
This is literally Holocaust narrative 101. Do you even know what you are defending? lol, lmao even
https://www.auschwitz.org/en/history/auschwitz-and-shoah/gas-chambers/
Defending the ridiculous gassing procedure is making you say ridiculous things like the Jews would have been so desperate to get a shower they would have ignored all the red flags and allowed themselves to get stuffed into a room in a basement.
The best way to protect the Holocaust narrative is to not engage in discourse or try to defend problematic claims. It’s not needed, Holocaust affirming has institutional power and for the most part they can use brute force to propagate the narrative while ignoring revisionists. So I thank you for making your side look weak and stupid. Good job.