Owns Gone Wrong

Part 2

I spend a good amount of time engaging in discussion (arguing) with people on Twitter (currently known as X). In many cases when you are arguing for the correct position, people try to “own” you but instead bolster your argument and confirm your own biases. In this article I’d like to share a few such cases.

JJ and I were having a discussion about the Israel/Palestine conflict. JJ refused to acknowledge that Israel murdering over 30,000 innocent Palestinian civilians is wrong. At one point JJ dropped a Wikipedia article without comment (see image below and please ignore my typo).

I don’t know exactly what JJ was trying to prove with this Wikipedia article. Perhaps that since Jews bought land in Palestine they had some legitimate claim. I am quite sure they never actually read it, however. I did read it, and behold, the first paragraph admits that Jews displaced Arabs already living on the land.

In the 1880s, Jews, predominantly Ashkenazi,[2][3] began purchasing land and properties across Ottoman Palestine in order to expand the collective territorial ownership of the Yishuv. Large Jewish corporations and private Jewish buyers led this effort through multiple intermittent transactions that continued after Mandatory Palestine was established in 1918. The largest of these arrangements, known as the Sursock Purchases, resulted in the procurement of the Jezreel Valley and the Bay of Haifa by the 1930s. The purchase of land was often accompanied by the eviction of the Arab tenants.[4] On 1 April 1945, the British administration’s statistics showed that Jewish buyers had legal ownership over approximately 5.67% of the Mandate’s total land area, while state-owned domain was 46%.[5][6][7] By the end of 1947, Jewish ownership had increased to 6.6%.[8] This cycle of land acquisition ultimately ended when the Israeli Declaration of Independence yielded the founding of the Jewish state on 14 May 1948. (My emphasis added.)

Furthermore, the Jewish land purchases were also against the wishes, and laws, of the Ottoman empire:

In 1892, the Ottoman government decided to prohibit the sale of land in Palestine to Jews, even if they were Ottoman citizens.[17] Nevertheless, during the late 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century, many successful land purchases were made through organizations such as the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association (PJCA), Palestine Land Development Company and the Jewish National Fund.

When I asked JJ what this article was supposed to prove, and told him that it did nothing but confirm my biases about Jewish subversion of foreign governments, he blocked me. Regardless, I thank JJ for providing me with information that backs up my anti-Israel stance.

Next up we have Chris Smith asserting that the following image is of Treblinka 2, where it is claimed that 900,000 Jews were killed.

I pointed out that Chris’s mistake which Chris dismissed.

In a different part of the discussion Chris refused to show a screen shot of the paywalled document from which they made their claim. I did some digging around and found a study that wasn’t paywalled. In the image below you can see a different version of the photo that Chris first provided. You’ll notice that the markings of the portion in the inset are the same as Chris’s photo. The caption reads, “Roughness Analysis, apparent graves in the woodland south of the labour camp.” That would mean that the alleged Treblinka death camp is point number 7 and those “apparent graves” are all the way to the south, past the labor camp. So I was correct, something Chris refuses to admit.

As far as the apparent graves? Well yes, they were graves. It was a graveyard. For more on that you can check out this article.

Chris’s insistence that their photo showed evidence of graves in Treblinka 2 is dishonest and/or ignorant. I’ve never met a Holocaust affirmer that wasn’t one or both of those things.

The last own gone wrong is from Alex pointing out an error I made (see first image). They actually pointed out my error several times but for some reason everyone decided to delete their posts (see second image).

What Alex failed to do was in any way diminish the point I was making. The following image is from the point I was making from the article in question (which I have made the appropriate correction to). Accidently saying maximum instead of minimum (why even list the minimum instead of maximum payload?) doesn’t invalidate my point that the alleged gassing procedure is ridiculous. Instead of defending the process as something the Germans would have totally done, which would have made Alex look stupid, they instead nitpicked a typographical error.

Sometimes you can make a mistake even if you are on the correct side of the debate. The worst thing you can do is double down when you’re wrong. The best is to admit it, correct it, and move on.

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