Effort Commenter Part One

Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5

During my summer break, the following comment was left by user “Herbert Williams.” As you can see, it is quite the effort post. I would say it’s fair to assume that these are some of Herbert’s best arguments in favor of the official Holocaust narrative.

Let’s get to it. Herbert starts by saying:

“We can trace individual transports to Birkenau (along with all other camps). We have exact numbers of people shipped to various camps. When they were used for work, we can trace their movements. And yet for many, these numbers seem to not add up. It’s almost as if once they reach certain camps, they never leave. If these Jews did not die, where did they go? Why is there no trace of them in any transport out of the camps, any marches, found during liberation etc.”

Right off the bat we have the missing people argument, a topic which I have covered, and which has also been discussed in detail on the CoDoH forum (see image below). Holocaust affirmers really think they have a slam dunk with this “missing person” bit.

As I (and many others) have said before, the question isn’t “where are the missing people?” Since it is the Holocaust affirmers making the initial accusation, the burden of proof lies on their shoulders. The legitimate question to ask is, “where are bodies of the 6 million Jews that the Nazis allegedly murdered?” This is a question that Holocaust officials have not been able to satisfactorily answer. 6 million bodies cannot disappear off the face of the earth with no trace, even if they were cremated. Because of the lack of physical evidence for mass genocide, Holocaust affirmers shift the burden of proof where it doesn’t belong: on the Holocaust revisionists. Holocaust revisionists/deniers are not conspiracy theorists. We are the fact checkers of Holocaust claims. In reality is is the Holocaust affirmers that promote a conspiracy theory by claiming that a bunch of Germans got together and managed to exterminate millions of Jews while leaving no trace of their crimes.

Next Herbert states:

“Perhaps you’re taking the ‘moderate’ route and saying that these deaths did occur, but these insanely high death rates were 1. From starvation/disease & 2. Not the intended outcome. This is untrue, but even if it were, it would still make Germany just as guilty. This would be true even if it somehow were an accident…”

I am not taking a “moderate” route. That would be stupid. I am taking the route that the evidence points to, and the available evidence shows that in the camps several hundred thousands Jews died from disease and starvation (much of which was thanks to the actions of the Allies). And yes, the Germans are responsible for avoidable deaths of the Jewish civilians. The problem is that the Allies have been spreading lies and anti-German propaganda about the Nazis for decades, while at the same time censoring opposition to the official narrative. Because of this it is impossible to have reasonable public discourse about Nazi Germany without a fog of lies tainting the discussion. This problem is further complicated by the fact the the Allies use the lies they created about the Nazis to gloss over the atrocities of which they themselves are guilty. The public ethos has a false perception of the Nazis as the ultimate evil and the Allies as the courageous good guys that were justified in doing what they did to defeat the evil Nazis.

Herbert continues:

“…The fact of the matter is it was openly stated in the Hunger Plan that while the war was ongoing, food would be given to Germans at the expensive of Soviet POWs, even if it mean complete starvation, The idea that Germany would have prioritized Jews higher is laughable....”

The “Hunger Plan” is an alleged Nazi policy to seize food from the Soviet Union and give it to German soldiers and civilians. Herbert seems to cite this alleged policy as evidence that the Nazis would have starved Jews on purpose. What would have been better evidence for the deliberate starvation of Jews would be a written Nazi policy calling for it. However, Herbert does not cite such a policy. Probably because one does not exist. And that is probably because the Nazis weren’t actually trying to murder all the Jews.

Furthermore, the Hunger Plan has actually been shown to be nothing more than Allied propaganda and it may not even be an actual written policy of the Nazis. About the Gerneralplan Ost, which the Hunger Plan falls under, Wilfried Heink says:

“Given this evidence one cannot possibly see any preconceived notion on Hitlers’ part re. the Generalplan Ost, as claimed by Evans. This plan, if it ever actually existed as stated, was created for administration purposes — after the war against the SU had started and huge territorial and population gains made at first. On 15 July 1941, Konrad Meyer-Hetlich presented this administrative plan to Himmler, who had requested it.[16] Hitler supposedly discussed his plan in a meeting of 16 July 1941: what is known from this discussion was presented at the IMT as L-221.[17] The original document that might prove the malicious intent of Generalplan Ost does not exist or has never been found —  only bits and pieces of related documents were presented at the Nürnberg trials. As such, there is no proof at all that this plan was a long held ambition of Hitler’s, and to try and use it to prove ‘The Holocaust’ is folly.”

Similarly, there are no incriminating documents of the Hunger How do the Holocaust officials know what the alleged Hunger Plan is all about? To solve help this riddle I turn to Wikipedia. Their entry on the Hunger Plan states:

“The Hunger Plan (German: der Hungerplan; der Backe-Plan) was a partially implemented plan developed by Nazi bureaucrats during World War II to seize food from the Soviet Union and give it to German soldiers and civilians. The plan entailed the genocide by starvation of millions of Soviet citizens following Operation Barbarossa, the 1941 invasion of the Soviet Union (see Generalplan Ost). The premise behind the Hunger Plan was that Germany was not self-sufficient in food supplies; to sustain the war and keep up domestic morale, it needed food from conquered lands at any cost. The plan created a famine as an act of policy, killing millions of people.^[1]“

I can’t help but notice the phrase “partially implemented plan.” That’s nice and vague. For this claim Wikipedia’s citation is the book The Wages of Destruction by Adam Tooze, pages 476–485, 538–549. That’s a lot of pages, Wikipedia. It’s almost like you don’t want the average person to verify your claims. However, for the sake of truth I will be doing just that. Continue to part two to read more about the Hunger Plan.