Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 6, Part 7
500 Known Mass Graves in Ukraine: 500 mass graves might sound impressive to the casual observer, but this is only because the casual observer doesn’t actually know that much about the Holocaust. First off, the alleged death camps were all located in Poland. Not Germany, and certainly not Ukraine. Mentioning mass graves in Ukraine is a deferral to ‘bullets in the East’. As I’ve said before, bringing this up is an attempt to distract from the problems with the narrative of the alleged homicidal gas chambers. And, as I have demonstrated before, the killing of Jews in the East was because they were partisans acting against the German army.
I have previously devised a system for determining whether or not a mass grave can be considered evidence of a genocide. To do this the following questions need to be answered: 1. Was an archeological investigation done? 2. If so, how many bodies were found? 3. Were they even Jewish? 4. If so, were they civilians or enemies of war?
Let’s take this article from The Times of Israel. The headline, which is all most people will read, declares that Holocausts-era mass graves have been ‘uncovered’ in Ukraine. So I read the rest of the article to see if any of my questions can be answered.
Lo and behold the answer to the first question is no. This means there no way to know how many bodies are in the grave and if they were even Jewish people from the Holocaust era. Is not disturbing the dead the real reason the bodies were not exhumed?
Contrast that alleged Holocaust era mass grave with a mass grave containing victims of Stalin’s regime as reported by the following article. Great lengths were gone to do an archaeological investigation, not disturbing the resting place of these victims wasn’t a consideration here. Leaving the dead to rest in peace seems more like an excuse not to investigate, especially considering there were Jewish victims of Stalin’s purge that would have been in that mass grave.
Reminder: Great Britain, the US and other Allies teamed up with Stalin knowing full well of the atrocities he was responsible for.
I have yet to find a mass grave that can be used as evidence of a German perpetrated genocide against Jewish people. If you believe you know of one please leave a comment below.
The Jager Report and Einsatzgruppen Reports: I have previously covered the Jager Report and Einsatzgruppen Reports. To summarize, these report contain numbers of Jews killed by the Einsatzgruppen. Investigations of these reports done by revisionists like Carlo Mattogno have found that these reports are filled with inconsistencies and improbilities.
These reports do not indicate that these Jews were killed for simply being Jewish. In fact there are reports of the problems Jews were causing for the German army and native population. Holocaust Denial on Trial actually provides such a report in the following excerpt from this article. Ignoring blackout regulations puts civilians in danger by making them a target to Soviet air raids. Holocaust promoters would like to have you believe that innocent Jews were being slaughtered but that simply isn’t the case.
Most importantly, without the physical evidence of dead bodies the numbers in the reports mean nothing. And, and I demonstrated in the previous section, there are no mass graves that can be used as evidence of a genocide.
Thus far this meme is not much of a gotcha for Holocaust deniers. Will one of the last three items on the list trip me up? Read part six to find out!
When I was trying to convince a friend on the holocaust, we came across the subject of the mass graves in Eastern Europe an found this article
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/nazi-era-mass-grave-found-former-jewish-ghetto-belarus-180971587/
Its a mass grave found in the jew ghetto in Minsk and they actually did exhumations
Ofc this can be easily explained as wartime condition casualties since only some of them have evidence of being shot according to the article but still thought it might interest you considering your last comment at the end of the first section.
Also just wanted to mention how funny the process was for identifying these mass graves, they say in this article:
https://web.archive.org/web/20090521072746/http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1086259.html
They would go into a town, ask the elderly where the jews were shot, the elders would go somewhere and tell some sob story and then the search party would use metal detectors and find bullets and jewelry in the ground of the frontlines of ww2. never any mention of finding bones or bodies either.
Anyway keep up the great content, youre doing the Lords work.
Thanks for the comment and the compliment!
Interesting how they dug up that mass grave but not others. Anyway, I found an article where they give the number as over 1000.
https://www.npr.org/2019/05/22/725728990/more-than-1-000-holocaust-victims-are-buried-in-belarus-after-mass-grave-discove
So we have questions 1-3 answered. That leaves 4. Where they enemies of war? What I would ask is how many people were in that ghetto. And if it were more than 1000 I would ask why didn’t the Nazis kill everyone if they had a plan to exterminate all Jews. Next I would ask if there were any women and children discovered. This would also help answer if they were partisans or not. If I can find more info I can write an article about this in the future.
I have an article about the French priest, Father Desbois, that you might be interested in.
https://www.holocaust.claims/einsatzgruppen/cbs-4-and-father-desbois/
I also address his ridiculous claim of 1 bullet 1 victim here, https://www.holocaust.claims/einsatzgruppen/einsatzgruppen-mass-graves-part-four/
Actually, there are hundreds of documents which match the Jäger Report’s formatting. For example, there’s Stahlecker’s own two reports to Heydrich, the 194 (and presumably 195, if the missing one is formatted like the others) Einsatzgruppen OSRs, all the reports contained in the “Meldungen aus dem Reich” series (712 documents), both Korherr Reports, Jäger’s confirmation on the seizing of Jewish property (2 telegrams), and the Reports from the Occupied Eastern Territories (another 55 documents). These total tens of thousands of pages of documents, and this isn’t even close to being comprehensive.
The information within the Jäger Report is also corroborated by other sources, listed below:
1. a hand-written follow-up report from Jäger, which gives a very similar, but slightly higher figure (the higher number is explainable by the couple-month gap)
2. The 2nd Stahlecker Report, which draws its data directly from the aforementioned handwritten Jäger Report
3. Einsatzgruppen OSR no. 155, which mentions incidents recorded in the Jäger Report, and
4. Einsatzgruppen Activity and Situation Report no. 9, which does the same.
Too bad for you that the Jäger Report is about partisans and other legitimate wartime targets and the exraggated numbers aren’t corroborated by physical evidence.